The .300 AAC Blackout, while occasionally seen in bolt rifles like Ruger's American Rifle, is most commonly seen in AR-15 platforms. 10 or 12 powder quantities for each type of powder I gave away about 2000 rounds of 300 blackout brass. Celebrate diversity and try it out! Well I spent part of today priming 200+ 300BLK conversions with CCI 400 primers. 110 grain Barnes TAC-TX H110 19.5 2,377 1.0 Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. Using DDM4 300 BO. Even adapted a supersonic load using WC820 from the .30 carbine. With my limited experience with this new caliber, I've been finding that Lil gun appears to be the best powder sofar for all the bullet weights I've tried so far in the 300 BLK. 300 AAC Load Test For 150 gr. Lil' Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. I tried the 110 grain Sierra Varminter hollow point just for fun, but the short profile gave me feeding problems in a couple of loads. by jwb47 Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:36 pm, Post If you need a subsonic round from a company with a top reputation, you can't go wrong with these. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. The reason I don't subscribe to these shenanigans is that you'll still have to fight your way to your rifle and having a seven pound pistol slapping your leg ain't gonna help with that. The lower the grain the faster the round and the harder it hits. by dpete Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:57 pm, Post But its insanely cool, quiet and useful at ranges of 100 yards or less. For the shooter you cant beat the cost per round of the X39 with all of the Mil surplus ammo that is available. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Load data for 147gr, Lil Gun, 8" barrel, 300 Blackout. The process is too much to go into here, but its not that big a deal. by Dolomite_Supafly Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:28 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, So I was looking at loads on the Hodgdon reloading data site and it looks like Hodgdon has increased the max loads for Lil Gun and lighter projos by a good bit. Share . Supersonic or subsonic, suppressed or not, it has never failed to cycle. by plant.one Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:47 pm, Post If it turned out to that CFE 223 could fill that role that would be the best of all worlds. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. The ballistic coefficient is .290 and the sectional density is .166. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. 500 yards -98.14 -39.06. Brian is an experienced freelance writer and technical writer who has previously written for publications such as Wide Open Spaces, Bigfoot Gun Belts, Alien Gear Holsters, and Kampgrounds of America. This is the ideal hard-hitting ammo for suppressed shooting in urban tactical environments. For match-grade ammo, this is a relatively affordable option. The 300 Blackout emerged from the 5.56 NATO cartridge as a specialized caliber ideal for suppressed use during spec ops. Its shown here with a Weaver Kaspa-Z optic. Will the BO push those Sierra 150gr BTHP fast enough to be effective? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Proudly Designed, Manufactured, and Assembled in the U.S.A. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow. So far, all the factory subsonic ammo Ive tried, with the exception of Cooper Cartridge 245 grain lead bullets, runs fine in this particular carbine length rifle. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! Anyone have issues? Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. Hornady's Black line of ammunition is optimized for use with a variety of platforms, but mainly with modern sporting rifles, the most popular rifles today. Magtech is a Brazilian ammunition manufacturer that was founded in 1990. Tom McHale Literary assault dude writing guns & shooting books and articles. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The 300 Blackout's .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem round's. So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. No problem. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. Misfires can be dangerous as they may go off after a short delay, while Bubba is peering down the bore to see what went wrong. You might think that of course, you know what you need from your ammo, but a finer degree of detail can really help you zero in on the best option. No more spilled shot or bulged cases. Well consider scope adjustment for a 50 yard zero range using an optic that is 2.5 inches above the bore. The primers are high quality staked and nickel-plated units. Your email address will not be published. There are plenty of options that match the versatility of the rifle. I am a lil-gun junkie I use it for 300 blackout , 44 mag , 480 ruger , 458 socom and 50 beowulf . The projectile has a ballistic coefficient of 0.56. Sig Sauer is a name that is immediately associated with quality and innovation. With subs, dont work UP. This subsonic 300 Blackout ammo is designed for accuracy and performance. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. 1 of 2 Go to page. But first, NEVER, EVER, EVER RELY ON LOAD DATA FROM SECONDHAND SOURCES LIKE THIS ARTICLE. 125 graIn Sierra MatchKing H110 18.0 2,146 0.94 150 grain Fun with the 300 blackout. This comparison to the AK comes up all the time; but really it shouldnt. LILGUN Powder in the 300 Blackout Picked up a lb of Lilgun powder today. Thanks! This ammo is available boxes of either 50 or one thousand rounds. For the testing rifle, I used a Daniel Defense DDM4v5 300 AAC Blackout. Once you see the quality you will want to save the shells for reloading if that's your thing. Lil' Gun with berry's 220gr starting load. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. Things dont like to travel at or close to the speed of sound ! Hodgdon uses a 16" barrel for it's 300 Blackout velocity/pressure tests. I'm ready to start loading up a new round. Weve already hinted at the incredibly broad range of bullet weight and velocity that can be successfully fired from the same gun. Here in S.C. To hunt coyotes at night you have to use a sub sonic round. This is what AAC suggests on their site. Thread Starter Mygrainman; Start date Sep 28, 2017; Tags blackout fun 1; 2; Next. Each round features a proprietary 125-grain, Open Match Tip bullet. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. . They have a military-type boat tail design to really squeeze out the best ballistics from the round. So they updated the load info accordingly. They make excellent .308 Win rounds. Then started the task of measuring out different powder loads with W296 into 5 cases for 5 test loads that I will shoot this week so I can finally get to loading a lot of plinking rounds. Although this ammo is not manufactured in the U.S.A. but just south of the border, don't fret, Mexico knows what it's doing with guns and ammunition. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. You can buy ready-to-go 300 Blackout brass or you can make your own from .223 brass. For now, lets just look at bullet drop. Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:03 am, Post I'll be using the CCI 450 small rifle magnum primer. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. I Don't Get It - AllOutdoor.com. Buy some 100 or 125 grain ammo that will move along at up to 2,400 feet per second. In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. You can't really go wrong with Hornady. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. right now Im elbow deep in 9mm trying to work up a match load that will work in my colt competition and beretta 92 for the up coming uspsa matches this spring. this round and enjoyed your article. 950 fps is usually seen as a comfortable sub sonic load. A .22LR (long rifle) may have more velocity/hitting power) than a .22S (short) but its that same bullet/projectile. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. smitters. Never had a factory round through it. Anybody use Dyna Puff [ A dacron Coarse Power ] Powder Buffer/Case Filler? Well, it starts here. 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips and 125 grain Hornady SST bullets are also a great 300 Blackout solution. Having no suppresser, a whole lot of Sub sonic miss feeds. Maybe Copper plate! Follow our guide below for a detailed list of the best 300 Blackout ammo on the market today. If you do a rough comparison of muzzle energy of the 300 AAC Blackout to the 7.6239 (AK-47) round, youll see a slight edge to the AK with a 100 grain bullet. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .300 AAC Blackout .300 AAC Blackout - Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholder: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Pistol Rifle Cowboy Starting Max Source 100 gr HPCE / OTCE (Lapua) 0.308" Powder: N105 (VihtaVuori) Primer: Small Rifle Case: Lapua Trim Length: 1.362" C.O.L. ( Zeroed in Red Dot as well ). She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Hi . If a single powder and projectile primarily for subsonic loads turns out to work for .300 Blackout that would be great. I will start my loading this morning. Sound speed is 1087 @ 32 degrees Fahrenheit . Finally cant find 300Ac or afford it. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. I love my DDM4V7 in .300 BLK with a mid-length gas system. These rounds work best with a pistol-length gas system and an adjustable gas block. 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip IMR 4227 17.5 1,971 1.42 The muzzle velocity for these 110-grain bullets is a snappy 2375 fps and the muzzle energy is 1377 foot-pounds. No matter how reliable it is, if shot placement isn't consistent and you can verify that the problem isn't you or your rifle, you are not shooting the best 300 AAC ammo. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Tom. (AAC developed the 300 blk and got it SAMMI approved) Remington Premier Match ammunition uses all match-grade bullets. All things considered, this ammo is a great middle-of-the-road option in 300 Blackout specifications. But I also dont see the 300 AAC Blackout as an either / or replacement for .223. When suppressed, the 300 Blackout is relatively silent while still maintaining hard-hitting ability. Always go with reputable manufacturers to avoid this problem. The problem is that the comparisons do not use the same barrel lengths. This makes the 300 Blackout an outstanding home defense round. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). 300 AAC Blackout 220 Grain Sierra MatchKing, 2,350 fps, 100 yards -6.09 I read the sticky on powders and that Lil Gun may not work well in 16 AR barrels unsupressed. I have a 16" barrel with a pistol length gas system. by tallburnedmidget Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:34 am, Post Lil' Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. for starting load data. H110 works extremely well with bullets from 110 to 150 grains. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. It seems like the 300 AAC could do the same at similar ranges. Though, I don't plan on using it for 110-130gr especially once I obtain some H110. I would do all of your load development without the can attached and when you reach a consistent 1050 fps and are sure that the bullets are not keyholeing, then you can put your can back on. If you look at the trajectory of a 220 grain Sierra MatchKing fired at 1,023 feet per second, also zeroed at 50 yards, youll see the following. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. Some of their bullet and cartridge designs have reached legendary status. The powder used in these rounds burns cleanly and the primers are reliable. Speed of sound or Mach 1.0 is 1115 fps at standard conditions of 59F and 29.92 inches of mercury. If you look at the standard 55 grain .223 Remington at 3,240 feet per second, that yields 1,281.8 foot-pounds of muzzle energy and 3.16 foot-pounds of recoil energy. This was based on real combat experience in which the standard 5.56x45mm NATO round did not provide sufficient knockdown power at the short ranges of urban combat. Ive only recently started tinkering with 300 Blackout loads and have already loaded and tested over 40 different projectile, powder and charge combinations, and Im just getting started. ddd oo7, what 220gr bullets are you loading? Sig Sauer is one of those names in the firearms industry that you just can't argue with. These are impressive full metal jacketed bullets loaded for subsonic performance. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. Overall, this ammo is designed to be versatile, reliable, and standard, giving you consistent shooting at conventional velocities. The top features of this ammo are the quality components and the versatile hollow-point bullets. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. In addition, Lil Gun has many magnum pistol applications and is a superb choice for reloading the 22 Hornet. Perhaps as the popularity increased as a 300 Blackout powder Hodgdon took notice and did a lot more testing. This increases reliability with semi-automatic firearms. In terms of powder choices, youll use powders in the faster half of the burn rate spectrum, like H110, Lil Gun, Accurate 1680 and IMR 4227. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post My results are as much as 700fps slower than the books say they should be. (I.E. Remington is the oldest firearms manufacturer in the country and the top producer of long guns. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER They also provide a low flash signature to keep your position concealed. Lets see dozens, times dozens, times dozens carry the one I count 17 billion load combinations required to do a full velocity and accuracy analysis. The possible reason being, without going to the time/trouble of annealing the cut off brass, bullet tension has to be suspect. Home formed RP 223 case, Magtech 7 1/2 primers. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. As an old Marine my bred in need for perfection is giving way to practicality, less obsession and more fun. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. 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